Hello Community
I was wondering how you deal with backing up Google Drive files. By default, Google Workspace provides these mechanisms (afaik) :
- Files go to trash for 30 days
- Google Vault
These are clearly not enough, as a trash emptying can be forced. After that, you only have 25 days to recover files.
And also, Google Vault isn't very practical since it doesn't preserve the folder structure nor I can imagine what it would be to recover a whole organization dozens or hundreds of terabytes of data via Vault. I think that is not the purpose of Vault.
How are you handling this? ANy good recommended products?
Cheers!
You are correct when you say vault is not built for this purpose. It's an eDiscovery tool not a backup tool.
The simple answer is a third party backup solution. If you need a true back up with easy click to restore and could handle large volumes of data restore, third party is the way to go. Spanning and Backupify are two options that have been around for awhile.
If third party is out of the question, do what you're doing today. User data restore within 25 days. Vault as a fail safe. Then create an activity alert for file deleted.
If alerted you can restore as it's within 25 days. Vault as backup.
Thanks a lot.
For the activity alert, I guess it will have to have a threshold right? Like 1000 files deleted in less than 2 minutes or similar.
For Spanning, I have heard bad stories. Will check Backupify.
You might also add Afi.ai to your list of potential providers. While we have not had any real need for the backups (thankfully), our occasional test restores of email and Drive data have worked fine.
Hi Jason
Many thanks! Afi.ai is definitely on my radar now.
Aren't you worried about giving a 3rd party vendor full access to all your domain drives, therefore having a single point of failure for your live data + backup data?
As many certifications and audits they might have, a small company can get hacked more easily than Google.
This is definitely a concern, and one I cannot completely address. Your situation may require more than one backup provider but that also broadens the attack target even if you would have more than one backup repository to draw on.
Perhaps a backup of your backup is a fallback? Afi.ai supports backing up to your own cloud storage solution which could then be backed up by another mechanism which does not have access to your live Workspace data, and is not accessible by afi.ai. Of course this brings increased cost and complexity. You may also lose backup fidelity such as ID's, sharing information, etc. But if you can restore a snapshot of the afi.ai backup data for it to use then this may not be an issue. I cannot say.
Perhaps @christiannewman has some expertise to add in regards to your backup vendor having access to everything?
Excellent reasoning, ideas and much appreciated. Thanks Jason!
I'm sure there are other backup solutions as well. Those two have just been around a long time.
For the activity rules you can create whatever threshold you like (Help Article ) As for the time frame though, it can only be in a 24 hr period or a 1 hour period. In your case, I don't think immediate notification is an issue. If they deleted it, it's gone and you have 25 days. 1 or 24 should be fine.
Vault โ backup
Backup โ vault
Both serve unique but equally important functions.
Vault
Enables you to retain (or purge) data according to business requirements and regulatory compliance (not withstanding end-user retention/deletion), search your data for a specific matter, put a hold on a matter, and share/export a matter for use by legal counsel and other stakeholders for the purposes of investigation or legal defence. Vault does not help you 'put files back' so you can continue collaborating/working with them.
Vault considerations vs your current system:
Backup
Enables you to retain copies of your current data so that you can put it back (notwithstanding accidental or malicious user deletion, encryption or infection), and continue collaborating on/using your data.
Backup considerations vs your current system:
Does this help, @Marcus1?
Hello Christian
Many, many thanks for the thorough explanation. It does help indirectly, as it is very well summarized.
However, I am still wondering how other companies and Google Workspace admins deal with a basic problem: If you use a 3rd party vendor for your GW backups, you are creating a single point of failure in which the vendor being hacked or malintentioned, would mean them having access to all your live data+backups.
I get quite anxious when I think about it. Is it just me?
Hi, I'm bringing up an old topic,
After your thorough explanation, on which third-party service would you recommend to backup all of my Organization data (about 30 users), which will conclude all or most of the important points you brought up.
Thank you
In today's landscape it's normal to be anxious. Talking about worst case scenarios can be intense.
If you do decide to go with a backup solution you have to think about it like any application with access to your companies data. This is obviously more data than most apps would have access to so there may be more due diligence. There is always a layer of trust and the company you choose ideally has enough criteria to make you comfortable. Things like history (hacked, stolen data) and compliance, SOC, ISO etc.
Thanks! Glad I am not the only one have some kind of anxiety over it ๐
Yes. Indeed. For instance, for cloud backup solutions, I find CloudAlly to be a potential best bet since it is part of a very big company (Opentext, Canada).