EP189 How Google Does Security Programs at Scale: CISO Insights

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Guest:

• Royal Hansen, CISO, Alphabet

Topics: 

How Google Does CISO

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Topics covered:

• What were you thinking before you took that “Google CISO” job?
• Google's infrastructure is vast and complex, yet also modern. How does this influence the design and implementation of your security programs compared to other organizations?
• Are there any specific challenges or advantages that arise from operating at such a massive scale?
• What has been most surprising about Google’s internal security culture that you wish you could export to the world at large? 
• What have you learned about scaling teams in the Google context?
• How do you design effective metrics for your teams and programs?
• So, yes, AI. Every organization is trying to weigh the risks and benefits of generative AI–do you have advice for the world at large based on how we’ve done this here?

Resources:

• EP75 How We Scale Detection and Response at Google: Automation, Metrics, Toil
• CISA Secure by Design
• EP20 Security Operations, Reliability, and Securing Google with Heather Adkins
• EP91 “Hacking Google”, Op Aurora and Insider Threat at Google
• “Delivering Security at Scale: From Artisanal to Industrial”
• SRE book: CHapter 5: Toil Elimination
• SRS book: Security as an Emergent Property
• What are Security Invariants?
• EP185 SAIF-powered Collaboration to Secure AI: CoSAI and Why It Matters to You
• “Against the Gods - Remarkable Story of Risk” book